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Were There Really BLACK CONFEDERATES

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Episode 6 of Checkmate, Lincolnites! Debunking the Lost Cause myth that tens of thousands of black men served as soldiers in the Confederate army during the American Civil War. Support Atun-Shei Films on Patreon ► https://www.patreon.com/atunsheifilms Leave a Tip via Paypal ► https://www.paypal.me/atunsheifilms Buy Merch ► https://teespring.com/stores/atun-shei-films Official Website ► https://www.atunsheifilms.com/ Original Music by Dillon DeRosa ► http://dillonderosa.com/ ~REFERENCES~ [1] “Black Confederate Movement ‘Demented’” (2014). AmericanForum /watch/MjhJGlWIFYfIJ [2] Sam Smith. “Black Confederates: Myth and Legend.” American Battlefield Trust https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/black-confederates [3] “25th USCT: The Sable Sons of Uncle Abe.” National Park Service https://www.nps.gov/articles/25-usct.htm [4] Justin A. Nystrom. New Orleans After the Civil War (2010). Johns Hopkins Press, Page 20-27 [5] Kevin M. Levin. Searching for Black Confederates (2019). University of North Carolina Press, Page 45 [6] James Parton. General Butler in New Orleans (1864). Mason & Hamlin, Page 516-517 [7] Levin, Page 12-15 [8] Levin, Page 34-35 [9] Myra Chandler Sampson & Kevin M. Levin. “The Loyalty of ‘Heroic Black Confederate’ Silas Chandler” (2012). HistoryNet https://www.historynet.com/loyalty-silas-chandler.htm [10] Levin, Page 82-83 [11] James G. Hollandsworth, Jr. Looking for Bob: Black Confederate Pensioners After the Civil War (2007). The Journal of Mississippi History, Vol. LXVIX, Page 304-306 [12] Lewis H. Steiner. An Account of the Operations of the U.S. Sanitary Commission During the Campaign in Maryland, September 1862 (1862). Anson D. F. Randolph, Page 19-20 [13] Levin, Page 32-33 [14] Charles Augustus Stevens. Berdan’s United States Sharpshooters in the Army of the Potomac (1892). Price-McGill Company, Page 54-55 [15] Levin, Page 44 [16] Andy Hall. “Frederick Douglass and the ‘N*gro Regiment’ at First Manassas” (2011). Dead Confederates Blog https://deadconfederates.com/2011/07/30/frederick-douglass-reads-the-paper/ [17] Jaime Amanda Martinez. “Black Confederates” (2018). Encyclopedia Virginia https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Black_Confederates [18] Levin, Page 58-61 [19] Levin, Page 39 [20] Levin, Page 46

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    @donaldreynolds68574 years ago A black man named Robert Smalls was captain of the Confederate gunboat CSS Planter. But only after he stole it first. 8541
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    @theoian4 years ago "My confederate ancestor wasn't racist, he had black friends." 5429
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    @morriganlefay54383 years ago 'If slaves will make good soldiers our whole theory of slavery is wrong'
    They were so close to realising lmao
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    @tifforo12 years ago Modern Confederacy apologist: "The Confederacy hired black soldiers! They weren't racist!"
    Historical Confederate leader: "How dare you, sir!"
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    @arachnofiend28594 years ago "If slaves will make good soldiers our whole theory of slavery is wrong." Oh, Cobb, you're so close to the truth... 2355
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    @JP123454 years ago Sometimes I unironically forget these two are the same person 1995
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    @morsecode9803 years ago Whites fighting for the North: “I’m fighting to preserve the Union!”
    Whites fighting for the South: “I’m fighting for state’s rights!”
    Blacks fighting for the North: “I’m fighting for my fucking life!”
    Blacks fighting for the South: “I don’t even wanna be here bruh”
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    @tysondennis10163 months ago Confederates: “We can’t be racist, we have black men fighting for us!”
    Slaves: “We don’t want to fight-“
    Confederates: “Shut up!”
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    @vurrunna4 years ago I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I really appreciate the relationship between Johnny Rebel and Billy Yank. They disagree on a pretty fundamental level, and frankly Billy Yank would have every right to treat Johnny Rebel as little more than a racist revisionist; but instead, he recognizes that Johnny Rebel is essentially just ignorant of the facts, wanting to believe a version of events that will make him proud of his heritage. They get along very well, telling jokes and giving each other gifts. It speaks to the idea that you'll change more minds through kindness and level-headedness than you ever will through vitriol and anger--yelling at people for people for being stupid might make you feel superior, but it's also the fastest way to make sure someone never listens to a word you say. ... 4832
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    @fryingpancakes84454 years ago "If slaves will make good soldiers our whole theory of slavery is wrong." -Howell Cobb. Also known as the biggest self-roast of 1864. 2359
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    @joeystromboli20363 years ago The Wii U lasted longer than the confederacy 697
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    @Earlesstag3 years ago The most unrealistic thing about these series is how the confederate guy just sits there and lets you talk. usually you get 3 to 4 words out and they are all ready screaming 1597
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    @JJMcCullough4 years ago I tried to name a more iconic duo, but I could not :( 5177
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    @mjlamey10664 years ago The amount of effort and talent it takes to write, shoot, and act this is ridiculous, we need to give this man more money and influence. 8249
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    @RaptorJesus2 years ago I appreciate the fact that you portray Johhny Reb as someone fundamentally decent, holding no actual racist or bigoted views, and genuinely just wants to believe his ancestors and people weren't those things. Even the "questionable" views he does hold seem to come from a place of genuine ignorance rather than malice. It would've been so much easier to write him as trailer-trash, and I cannot say how much it pleases me you didn't. ... 2302
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    @austinfowler27073 years ago The biggest thing that disproves the idea of black confederate soldiers is the lack of documentation.
    If they were in fact soldiers, what was their rank? What was the highest rank a black confederate soldier ever recived and who received it?
    Where is the contract? All enlisting members have to sign a contract. What is the length of the contract? What regiment were they assigned to? Who was their commanding officer?
    And every soldier is given compensation for their contract? What was their pay? How did the confederacy send money to the bank accounts?
    And were they're any disciplinary actions taken on these soldiers? This shit is documented. Even in the union. So the idea that they would be seen as soldiers...is entirely without merit. And if there were, why don't we have statues in the south about them?
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    @BarkyLondon3 years ago "As this Facebook meme clearly demonstrates..." is the level of proof that most people seem to be satisfied with these days, tbh. 3730
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    @SiraSpirit4 years ago "As diverse as a college admissions photo." So exactly one Black guy appearing in every photo? Great line. 411
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    @MSNL1233 years ago Honestly, the more I hear about lost cause myths, the more I think that the most fatal concoction to a lost cause believer would be that which would allow any confederate politician or army officer to ressurect for as little as 15 minutes. ... 632
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    @wordsdistorted2 years ago This was probably THE biggest myth I used to believe to be true. I even remember doing a school project and finding so many websites peddling this info with pictures and everything. My teacher didn't even tell me I was wrong... It's a shame America waits until the college level to teach critical thinking skills, as well as the listing and vetting of sources. ... 402
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    @johnlittle68364 years ago This is the best Christmas gift since Sherman gave Lincoln Savannah 989
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    @mister_i92454 years ago My Dad liked to watch your channel before he passed, he said he liked you because you 'tell it like it is' 826
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    @theomegajuice86603 years ago "If slaves will make good soldiers then our whole theory of slavery is wrong"
    So apparently they had self-aware wolves in the 19th century too
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    @Momo_2-42 years ago "And though survivng a New Orleans parade can make you feel like a combat veteran, this unit never saw any real action" love this 135
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    @johntaylor70294 years ago I love how even the small jokes on this channel, in this case exchanging coffee and tobacco (related products), have historical precedent. 910
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    @FlyingTooFast3 years ago Anyone else notice with every checkmate lincolnites, he starts to climb the ranks in the Union army? 1924
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    @kitjohnson27672 years ago “Our great and glorious Confederacy was as diverse as a college admissions photo.”
    That made me laugh.
    Though I will say in the Silas Chandler photo the white guy looks FAR more scared than Silas.
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    @dragoninthewest12 years ago I love that the intro is very historically accurate. I heard there was a huge black market trade of coffee and tobacco during the Civil War 217
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    @lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon77984 years ago I met a deep southerner from Tennessee once that had a southern unionist ancestor and was dang proud of it. He talked about how his ancestor was amongst the few locals from his small town being friendly and welcoming towards local ex-slaves after the war ended. ... 1740
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    @jacksonmacpherson61014 years ago Saying the confederacy isn't racist because there were black Confederates is like saying the SS was tolerant because they had volunteers and "suggested volunteers" from Eastern Europe.
    CHECKMATE ALLIES
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    @maogu19993 months ago "As this facebook meme clearly demonstrates"
    Hard to argue with that kind of robust evidence.
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    @mikeor-8 months ago Having written a book about the Civil War, I can safely say that the very idea of Black Confederates is nothing short of utterly absurd. 121
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    @Yannis1a4 years ago Confederate Capitan: "Poor Silas, they captured him! Those yankees are probably torturing him for information"
    Soldier: "Isn't that your slave, sir?"
    Confederate Capitan: "Ha! We are save! Silas infiltrated the enemy army to betray them before they overwhelm us"
    Soldier: "They are charging, sir"
    Confederate Capitan: "Any second Now"
    Soldier: "He is aiming at you, sir"
    Confederate Capitan: "Any second Now"
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    @SpunkyMcGoo4 years ago the coffee gag as a transition into the first comment is fucking brilliant 374
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    @robertwalton4344 months ago Probably unintentional, but I find it amusing that in his attempt to checkmate Lincolnites, Reb places the chess board sideways. 18
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    @justicebeske5704last year The fact he's able to recite these unhinged comments while holding the accent and not breaking out laughing is a feet of great power. 57
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    @landonbass834 years ago There is nothing an American southerner like me likes more than a good history lesson 🇺🇸 1593
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    @ollaniuspius12114 years ago I know it all went down-hill afterwards, but I truly think it's nice that Johnny Reb got him a present. 583
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    @jamie80322 years ago As a European brushing up on his American history you're videos are very entertaining and insightful (:. A friend of mine, from Tennessee is adamant, and unrelenting in his opinion that 100,000 enslaved and free men willingly fought for the Confederacy.. He will not budge in his opinion. I've showed him so many videos bebunking the myth... Like, I'm from Ireland, I'm not even from the U.S - I was never thought U.S history in school, all of it i've researched myself yet even I know the black confederate myth couldn't be a more false piece of historical revisionism. Why would people fight for an institution that keeps them enslaved? I think it sometimes takes an outsiders perspective to see what's real and what's myth. But yeah, when my friend says the confederate cause was about freedom I retort with "yeah.. freedom! the freedom to keep human beings in bondage and to pivot an entire society around this enterprise!" .. Also that Irish accent you did for Cleburne was on point 👌 ... 126
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    @lukasuhlenkamp98504 years ago I like that the chess set itself contradicts the “northern aggression” myth, given that in chess white makes the first move 4127
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    @murphyrutledge55904 years ago “As this Facebook meme clearly indicates.” 1078
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    @generalsherman12133 years ago I think I just realized how the first drunk comment was written, I think the person was speech to text and didn't bother to double check when they were finished. That explains the words in there with no context and there being only an opening quotation mark, I think they said quote and it put the symbol. Still funny as hell though. ... 64
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    @Zombie-rj6nd3 years ago As someone who was born and raised in the first secession state South Carolina, your videos have changed my mind about the lost cause. I feel really stupid that I actually believed it, but this southerner thanks you. Keep it up!!!!!! ... 286
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    @johnwall79684 years ago I'm a simple man. I see a notification from Atun-Shei: I drop everything and watch. 266
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    @PitterPatter204 years ago This should be really easy to prove. Lost Causers should be able to point to regiments in the Confederate order of battle, not resorting to these random collections of sources. Unless they actually want us to believe that the Confederate Army was desegregated when the Union's wasn't lol. Which they might actually attempt knowing them. There's also the fact that even if they were right and black soldiers fought for the Confederacy it still wouldn't prove the war wasn't about slavery lmao. It's wrong and it's pointless. ... 1242
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    @poe_slaw3 years ago “Instead he used a piece of gold to buy whiskey, which he used to buy a bottle of whiskey”
    makes sense to me
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    @ycylchgames5 months ago Man I miss Checkmate Lincolnite. This series was amazing. 13
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    @ComradeOgilvy19844 years ago Getting drunk in order to read that viewer comment correctly was fabulous enough to earn a like right there! 330
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    @AceHawk374 years ago Best Christmas present I could have asked for, more Checkmate, Lincolinites. 428
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    @jimp84003 years ago Your “ Johnny Reb “ Character is the best.
    He is so funny/informative in his own way.. he’s a brilliant idea to get the real message out. That slavery is/was the sole base root of succession
    Kudos for your videos. Well done sir. Very well done.
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    @hhiimmddoo3 years ago This channel has educated me much more than my school ever did. We were taught the lost cause myth as fact and until finding this channel, which deconstructed and disproved it in a way that I didn’t immediately turn off the videos, i still believed it. ... 53
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    @alleycat74824 years ago "Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope."
    -Johnny Reb, Dec. 2020
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    @linussextips76194 years ago The best Christmas present, a brand new atun-shei video. 773
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    @aetu352 years ago I think the real reason Cleburne could even think of arming the slaves is because he wasn't really a Southerner. He was an Anglo-Irishman who had immigrated to the South, he didn't grow there. He didn't cite slavery as a reason for joining the South, but because the Southerners had accepted him as one of their own. He didn't own slaves nor did he care for its trade. He was pretty much what actual Southerners want to imagine what all of the Confederacy was. ... 18
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    @janellevans8784 months ago After finding the Cornerstone Speech by CSA, VP Stevens openly states slavery was the reason for CSA. 5
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    @danielduvernay32074 years ago He actually does a pretty good job trying to argue for the Confederate cause, it's not like he's only addressing one thing, he's trying to find the best evidence for the Confederacy. 343
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    @northchurch7534 years ago Having Ewan McGregor as God answering Johnny Reb's prayer had me in stitches. Great video sir, and as always:
    Thou art a wretched sinner, utterly unworthy of God's love. A fountain o' pollution is deep within thy nature, and thou livest as a winter tree, unprofitable, fit only to be hewn down and burned. Steep thy life in prayer, and hope that God sees fit to show mercy upon thy corrupted soul. ...
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    @aidanfarnan46832 years ago "-and although surviving a New Orleans parade can make you feel like a combat veteran." Is such a great line. 22
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    @lb76436 months ago The Confederacy was so pitiful that it betrayed its last, if detestable, principle of black subjugation in the army in a final whimper of pathetic desperation. Kind of impressive how sad and weak they truly were... 😂 9
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    @warlordofbritannia4 years ago Things that have happened in “Checkmate, Lincolnites!”:
    —Immortal (?) Confederate soldier who gets resurrected
    —Possession by a Nazi archeologist of said Confederate
    —An exorcism preformed by a VVitchfinder General from Puritan times
    —Advertisements at gunpoint
    —Obi-God Kenobi
    —Whatever the fuck Andy was watching at the start of the episode on tariffs
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    @MetallicaMan764 years ago Merry Christmas Atun-Shei you Carpet Bagging Blue-Belly 427
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    @StealthMarmot_2 years ago "...and though surviving a New Orleans parade can often make you FEEL like a combat veteran..." how did I miss this chuckleworthy line the first time around. He says it so factually you don't realize he's making a joke at first. ... 12
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    @fantasyskeeplast year I've literally watched this series over 6 times and it never gets less funny. A. Please bring it back and B. Atun-Shei is a genius. 19
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    @AWACS_Snowblind4 years ago "Yes, it's me [Jesus Christ]. But I wasn't really born on Christmas. It's a vile pagan carnival, and everyone who celebrates it is going to hell."
    - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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    @wyattplayzgaming4 years ago Southerner here, I love this. Definitely agree that the Confederacy was wrong and was formed upon slavery. But Mr. Reb, please never concede, we need more of this amazing series! 1676
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    @teucer9155 months ago I'm reminded of this video today when I saw a Facebook comment saying the reason Lincoln didn't originally want to do the emancipation proclamation was because his support mostly came from the north and that's where most of the slave holders were. Which is so confused I couldn't even formulate a coherent reply. ... 4
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    @deeellebee972011 months ago I’ve watched all of Checkmate, Lincolnites a few times through, and only just now noticed Johnny checking his own rifle in horror when Billy says the guns in the photo of Andrew and Silas are props. Can’t believe I missed that, lol. Priceless ... 16
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    @kapitankapital65804 years ago "If slaves would make good soldiers our whole theory of slavery would be wrong"
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
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    @helbent43 years ago To say black people were an integral part of Confederate units was to say that horses and livestock were equally integral to the Confederate army. Before the advent of mechanisation (and even some time after) armies literally could do nothing without horses and mules as they hauled vital supplies like food, ammunition, etc. But that didn't mean they fought in the front lines or didn't get whipped when they weren't moving fast enough. ... 820
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    @silvershocknicktail6638last year "If black slaves make good soldiers our whole theory of slavery is wrong." - Ooooh, so close. 9
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    @robloxplayer00032 months ago The tf2 update gap lasted longer than the confederacy. 8
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    @joeevans57704 years ago I like to think Billy Yank died in the war and is stuck in hell being forced to debate Jonny Reb for all eternity 144
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    @kmac93723 years ago Funny how every mention of slavery by a confederate supporter always says the majority of slaves were happy. My only question is, would you give up all of the agency in your life and your children’s lives to serve someone else, no matter how good they treat you? ... 650
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    @leighluvsrats3 years ago Idk why but Billy yank and Johnny rebs relationship is oddly really sweet and wholesome idk why lmao 10
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    @angusyang59174 months ago Even if hundreds or thousands of black soldiers did serve in the service of the Confederacy, it does not change the fact that the Confederate State of America was fighting to maintain slavery. Many empires and dynasties in history have employed their slaves as soldiers and warriors, like the Abbasid Caliphate who imported Turkic and African slaves to form a military slave class known as mamluks, serving as cavalry and infantry, or the Ottoman Empire, whose Janissaries, converted Christian boys to Islam, were legally the property of the sultan. In both cases, the power of the mamluks and Janissaries grew so much that in the former case, they eclipsed the caliph and in the latter case, the Janissaries became the Praetorian Guard of the Ottoman Empire, murdering and deposing sultans at will. If anything, the fact that the South was so terrified of using black slaves as soldiers shows volumes as to how much they feared, how much they knew, that their slaves were not willing participants in the chattel system of the antebellum South, and that trusting with weapons would be inciting them to revolt. ... 7
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    @thejoester10114 years ago Honestly this man is doing the country a service by debunking this "Lost Cause" bs. I tip my blue hat to you sir! 1004
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    @kevinbertram48284 years ago Is Ewan McGregor the Confederate Jesus? 362
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    @UGAlawdawg3 years ago This is an important YouTube series for the well meaning kids being indoctrinated into Lost Cause Culture. 47
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    @youtuber-tg1pu5 months ago Do Confederates actually think the Antebellum South was a freedom land for Black Americans? 8
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    @WanderingTaoist1014 years ago All I want for Christmas is historical accuracy. 302
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    @McBeard19874 years ago I don't know who you got to voice Douglas, but he somehow was able to get a healthy mix between Morgan Freeman and Darth Vader, and it's amazing. 260
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    @Forestdude-be6ud3 weeks ago Can we talk about the editing? Freakin' amazing! Everytime I have to rewatch because my brain just sees a guy throwing water at another guy when I know it's one dude with good editing and wet floors! 1
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    @brendanokeefe1103last year The way this man seamlessly blends memes and historical analysis is just chefs kiss 8
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    @delcapslock1003 years ago George Washington had hundreds of slaves that attended to him both at Mt Vernon and throughout the war. He was definitely overconfident in their loyalty to him, as scores of them escaped to British warships at the first opportunity. He just couldn't quite wrap his mind around slaves valuing their freedom more than being his slaves. ... 282
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    @AuburnDetroitTiger4 years ago You've taken on "Gods and Generals," when are you gonna take on, "GONE WITH THE WIND?" Time to go against Scarlett O'Hara! 367
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    @mwm482 months ago Really good transitions man, the edits make it feel like there are two people. Very good edits! 4
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    @ummmhelp3 years ago That's like the military equivalent to "I'm not racist I have black friends" 20
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    @HistorywithCy4 years ago The next installment of my favorite Atun-Shei series. No wrapping necessary...thank you for the wonderful holiday gift! And thank you Atun-Shei films for a great 2020. Looking forward to 2021, stay safe! 311
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    @tsmotions34464 years ago Your impression of Obi-Wan Kenobi as Jesus is sickeningly good 125
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    @Baconcatboy3 years ago I like how confederates are using their battle flag instead if the actual one 18
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    @greenberry601910 months ago Isn'it depressing that these videos can exist as basically complete, stone-solid debunkings of every facet of the Lost Cause myth, and yet there will always be just as many people in the comments regurgitating every lie with just as much conviction as before? ... 14
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    @iapetusmccool4 years ago Even if this claim was true, I don't think it would be particularly meaningful, or say anything good about the Confederacy.
    European colonial empires made extensive use of native soldiers, but they were still racist and exploitative. But they realised that the most effective way to utilize racism was to treat certain people (e.g local elites, or tribes or ethnic groups with a strong martial culture) as superior to the other locals, and grant them some privileges accordingly. That way they will support the system because they benefit from it (or at least think they do).
    From the video, it sounds that something similar was happening in New Orleans, but the Confederates were to stuck in their ways to take advantage of it.
    So in short, the Confederates were too racist to even do racism effectively.
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    @Poagoo3 years ago I like how with every episode they both get more civil in their convos 15
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    @somekindakaiser83392 years ago I want to see a video where it's just Billy and Johnny drunk off their ass arguing 10
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    @BlazingRoman4 years ago () "It's right there, in black and white!"
    Word choice, my friend.
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    @Artur_M.4 years ago This might be the best episode of "Checkmate, Lincolnites!" yet. The ending was so wholesome! I'm actually starting to see some character development in Johnny Reb, he kinda accepted losing the argument in the end here. I wonder if the next episode will be about the Native Confederates (or rather the Native/Indigenous Americans in the Civil War in general)? At least in that case poor Johnny will have some better footing.
    Also, the topic covered this time makes me even more curious about your opinion of the 1999 movie Ride with the Devil, because the "exceptionally loyal slave fighting with his master" motive was featured there in a nuanced way if I remember correctly (it was a long time since I watched that movie).
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    @rickbarents9336last year It’s crazy how entertaining and informative this is. 9
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    @nigeldixon51533 years ago “Shermans march made what Japan did to.. everyone-“
    Did Sherman have beheading contests and use the dead bodies as roads for the armor and vehicles?
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    @benjamins.104 years ago What a fantastic episode. Thank you, Andy, for your all your hard work in bringing the truth to us. You call yourself an "okay" actor but I think you're a great actor. To make us believe you're talking to something besides a blank chair takes skill. Bravo.
    Plus, Ewan MacGregor and "Hello there"? chef's kiss
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